Not because I think it is a good move, not because it is a bad move. Not because I give a damn about the Yankees, but because I have no idea how good of a manager Joe Torre is. My gut feeling is that Joe Torre isn’t a spectacular head coach, but uh, he has all those damn World Series rings and gets to the playoffs a lot.
I’m not going to say that I could coach those Yankee teams to those wins, because that would be a silly thing to say, but I do think that a whole lot of baseball managers could coach those teams to those wins. Torre has a career .537 winning percent as a manager, but a .607 win percentage in New York. He hasn’t won a World Series since 2000, and even though he has won the AL East in all of the seasons since then and has only once finished 2nd in the Division, they’ve had talent levels that other teams dream of. Not to mention, when they need to go out and add a player, they at least tend to go out and add some piece, even if it isn’t the perfect piece.
It’s a hard thing to make an argument about, when you attempt to say that a coach or manager with a ton of wins and Championships isn’t quite as talented as people make him out to be. The reason is that anyone who wanted to take the side that Torre is a great and brilliant manager has a ton of stats to throw out there. Which I touched on in the opening.
For starters, though, the American League is the American League. It’s not wrong of me to think less of a manager for success in the AL. They’re pitchers can go longer into games, he doesn’t have to double switch. Doesn’t have to worry about the 8 hitter getting walked because Robinson Cano is just kickin’ it right there in the spot that you would have a pitcher in the real league. National League ball is real. Forgive me if I consider a NL manager winning the World Series as higher in value than when someone does it in the AL. This isn’t exactly new or anything along those lines, just common sense, more or less, but it has to be said.
Arguing Torre’s success as a manager really is an argument you can’t decide. I can say all day that he has all the tools needed given to him whereas other managers scratch and claw and any manager would love to be in his position, but it doesn’t really get folks anywhere. And I’m not saying Torre is a bad manager, just don’t know if he’s good enough to warrant all of this complete shock to him being kicked out of New York. The initial reaction, sure, be surprised, but thinking about it, man has not won a Series in six years with that organization and that is not good enough. Clearly, he needs a better pitching staff. I personally would axe Brian Cashman before Joe Torre, but I’m not that surprised Torre is gone. In the end, they couldn’t hit in the postseason. They couldn’t do anything.
So, I want to see Torre in the National League with a team like the Cubs or the Nationals. Just to see if he can do it. To get the complete picture of the type of manager Joe Torre is. Will he do it? I’m not sure. If he wants to spite George Steinbrenner and the Yankees, then I guess there is a chance, but I don’t know much about Torre’s personality.